Matt Harmon: On this episode of mammoth weekly university, president Patrick Lehe, and I wrap up the academic year discussing graduation, fundraising efforts, summer classes, and a word on Memorial day. This is faculty member, Matt Harmon. It's time for episode number 30 of Mammouth weekly. Thanks as always for listening Matt Harmon: One season down and into another, the busy, busy calendar at Monmouth university, uh, continues. We, when I say turn the corner, we've turned the corner from the spring semester into now summer classes, graduation wrapping up last week. And I'm sure that puts a smile on the face of my co-host. That of course is university president Patrick Lakey, faculty member, Matt Harmon. We are back for episode number 30 of our Monmouth weekly podcast series, uh, president Lehe, successful graduations. I would say, you know, I, I, I could do that, I guess LeBron line, right? Not one time, not two times, not three times, but seven graduations over the course of the last couple of weeks. Um, you know, I, I, I filled in for one of the name readings and it was a really, really good ceremony. Um, and I would imagine all the ones that took place over the course of, of the last week, the same as well. Patrick Leahy: And thank you for doing that, Dr. Harmon. I really appreciate it. Yeah. Seven ceremonies. This, this spring to, uh, properly graduate are class of 2021. We really broke it down into those seven, uh, different events, a series of events, if you will, to try to give our students and their families, uh, as close to the full experience as possible. And I believe that we were able to achieve that. You know, not, not every college and university is doing this. I have a, a daughter myself who graduated last week and, uh, unfortunately there were no guests allowed at that ceremony. So we had to watch it be a live stream. So can imagine how, uh, pleased I w I was to be able to preside over these seven ceremonies to give our students, uh, you know, that milestone event that they deserve. I was counting it up, uh, Matt, and, uh, with these seven complete, since I became, uh, president of a university back in the summer of 2012, I've now presided over 42 graduation ceremonies. so that's a lot of hands. And, uh, I always say it's one of the great, uh, professional privileges of my life to be able to, uh, preside over a graduation ceremony. So can imagine how grateful I am that, uh, that, uh, I've now got 42 under my belt. Matt Harmon: Well, listen, I'm sure that's a number that, uh, I, I is, you could, you could walk around and tell people like, Hey, I've done 42 graduations. Clearly not by choice. I mean, one usually gets it done, maybe two, depending on how things break out. Uh, but obviously with the COVID situation and having to do, um, multiple, I do want to throw a quick shout out to my, my, my buddy in athletics, who did a bulk of the work Och pinti, um, reading those names. He and I have been doing that for a really long time, trying to help out. And, and I will say to this day, I think I got the, the better of the deal. Just the way my schedule had worked out was some other things I did one of the second ceremonies in the first week. I, I would imagine he was just a sweaty mess during the course of this past week. As most people were, uh, nice to be outside, but had to have been hot on the turf, right. Patrick Leahy: It was. But remember that last year we graduated the class of 2020 in August across nine ceremonies. And every time I felt it getting a little warm this year, Matt, I just thought back the last August. And for some reason it just didn't feel as hot. Matt Harmon: Not, not so not so bad after that, not so bad. You know what one question that I, I had kind of thought about, um, it, with graduation being a little bit different and broken up into all these smaller ceremonies. I, I was curious if, if for you, or maybe some of the faculty members that were able to attend, um, if, if there was almost that opportunity after the ceremony to maybe connect with people a little bit more than you would've, if it would've been one big ceremony with a couple of thousand people there. Patrick Leahy: Yeah. I think one of the benefits of, of doing it this way is that it does create some more intimacy and, um, it just makes it a little bit smaller crowd and allows for those connections to, to take place before and after the ceremony in a way that if, if we graduated all of the class at one time, undergraduate and graduated would just be overwhelming. I think it's important to note that even prior to the pandemic, Matt, we had plans to bring commencement back to campus. We, we actually had a plan in place that we were gonna execute and then the pandemic came and it forced us, uh, to adjust our plans even further. But, uh, the idea that we will graduate here on campus with both one large event for the entire class as a whole, as well as degree conferral ceremonies by school in smaller events is a model that's here to stay at Monmouth. Matt Harmon: You know, you think of it. And, uh, you know, obviously graduation brings a close to the spring academic calendar last Monday, summer a started today, summer B started. Uh, so the, the course load on the summer side of things of all the five different calendars, I think summer C starts today as well. And then there's a couple, whether that be summer D summer E they start, uh, up and going in July. You know, I, I, I said right at the beginning, in, in my, my first line of the podcast today, it never really stops, right. I mean, it's, it's 12 months a year. I mean, you might say, well, it slows down a little bit from one time to the next, but there's so much going on. Even in a world that's been filled the last 15 months with COVID and pandemic and all the restrictions, um, in, in one way, having a busier campus right now probably seems like we're getting back to normal just a little bit more. Patrick Leahy: It does. And, uh, I'm glad you brought up the summer sessions, which are also, uh, very robust here and getting increasingly more robust. I love that because as we've talked about in previous episodes, I love the idea that we're operating a 12 month university here. That is two things. One Matt one is that we are serving students on their journey toward their degrees every month of the year. And, and so, yes, of course we have our two traditional semesters and we have a very robust getting more robust summer session. And then I think, as I've mentioned before, we're working with the faculty now about the possibility of a winter session. So that even that four week period, that sort of at the end of December or into January, could also be used potentially to serve students who want to catch up or, or, or make up, uh, uh, courses or what have you, uh, get ahead. Uh, we give them an opportunity to do so even that month of the year. So I love the fact that we are operating a 12 month university, uh, it's first and foremost, great service to our students. And then secondly, of course, it's gives us a chance from a business standpoint to, to sort of take as, as full advantage as possible of the assets that we have at the university. And most business people would tell you that that's really good of more efficient use of your assets, more efficient utilization of your assets. And so I'd like to be able to do that as well. Matt Harmon: You know, Le leads me into a good follow up. You think of it. And, and you have talked about since, uh, becoming president, whether evolving into that hybrid model, offering some more online classes. And now the idea of kind of that 12 month program with the winner session in there from, from a competitive standpoint, I, I would think that is a huge benefit to Monmouth to, to your point, say, we can serve students 12 months a year. You don't have to go anywhere else or in a particular case, you know, I mean, listen, there, there there's Monmouth ocean county certainly has a, a lot of kids that leave and go elsewhere. But if you come home and you want to, to grab a class over winter break, you can, if you wanna pick up a summer class, you can, if you don't offer 12 months a year, then you can't get anybody else to do that. Patrick Leahy: Yeah. And what, and what allows that as you point out is, uh, our comfort level and our faculty's comfort level, delivering programming online, because the only way we're gonna be able to offer a winter session is if most of the coursework is delivered online and the way in which we grow our summer sessions is to deliver more of that programming online. And that is just, as you mentioned, Matt, as students go home and leave Monmouth county, um, they can still take courses with their university. The alternative would be they'd go to a local, you know, college or university in their hometown, take a course there and then transfer that credit back in. And what I always say is that we, we want to teach our students as much as possible. So, uh, the introduction of online delivery allows for that Matt Harmon: Big weekend. Obviously, you know, a as I looked at it, we're leading into, uh, that summer break Memorial day weekend is upon us coming up. Um, so, so this episode number 30, it's not any monumentous number for us, but 30 seem to be a good way to kind of wrap up this academic year before you, and I will continue doing this during the course of the summer. And maybe a look ahead a little bit more, uh, to the 20, 21, 22 year. So, so wrapping things up. And when I say wrapping them up, I say that with a little bit of a, a star next to it, because near and dear to your heart, to my heart, there are a couple of athletic teams that are still in full force. What a baseball game that took place over the course of the weekend, a walk off grand slam for mama baseball to continue their year. They go in now to the final four of the Mac tournament, still with an opportunity to get into the NCAAs. Patrick Leahy: Yeah, it's just amazing. I mean, just never say, uh, die. I mean, they are just, uh, always, um, competing to the very end and a few times this year, uh, down to their last strike, I think, uh, a few games ago pulled out a win. And then, uh, just over the weekend, uh as you said, a walk off grand slam. I said to one of my sons today, if, if you, uh, are involved in a college or university and you still have athletic teams competing now, what, what is today, May 26th. If you have teams competing now, then, uh, then you're doing something, uh, well, and, uh, our baseball team, as you mentioned, has a chance to, to, um, you know, compete for a Mac title and then advance to the national tournament. We've talked about odd nauseum this spring, the number of programs that, uh, have competed and competed well, so many, uh, conference championships, so many regular season, uh, uh, championships. It's just amazing. And, and I I'm, I'm always on the lookout for what other college or university, uh, at, especially in the division one level, what, what other college or university the D one level has had the kind of athletic success this year across the board than we have? I mean, I I'm open to someone suggesting there are others that have competed as well across the board as we have. Um, I just have trouble believing that they're out there. Um, just incredible. Matt Harmon: So we're laying down the gauntlet in essence to say, if you are a president and clearly I'm sure you're a listener to Monmouth weekly, if you wanna come on and Toutout your athletic program, we'll let you come on. Uh, in the next one, you know, that, that clearly was a highlight moment. Um, and the athletic staff did such a great job of covering it in so many, so many ways between the video and, and the different, uh, social media post that I saw and the different photos. Um, our congratulations, obviously to, to Dean EAL, his staff and the rest of the team. That's not it though. And, and I say from a team perspective, once it gets to this part of the year, it becomes a little bit more individual. Um, over the course of the weekend, saw that mark Orlando, Danielle, Steph of the track and field team, they qualified and, and will continue into the east regional, both, um, on the javelin side and listen our, our track and field program. I, I think over the course, I, I would say the last couple of decades has, has become second to none, uh, with teams going back to the days of the NEC and now the Mac. And to your point, if you have, in this particular case, individual athletes still competing, you're clearly also doing something, right. Patrick Leahy: Oh my gosh. I mean, our track and field program is top, top in the conference year over year. Um, and then as you point out, you know, there's select athletes among our teams that, uh, in their respective events are advancing and competing, uh, first regionally, and then hopefully nationally. Um, it's just further evidence of that, of the, of the strength of our athletics program across the board. I mean, there are a lot of athletic programs. Every college university has one or two where they're the sort of the dominant team. You know, you can think of plenty of examples of that, but we are increasingly becoming, I think, you know, top to bottom, like the, the one, you know, one of the most competitive programs in the country. And, and this is so important to us because first and foremost, it gives our student athletes a great experience. I mean, that, that's what we're really after is trying to create a life transforming experience for our students here at Mammouth. And if you are student athlete and you can compete at that level and get into national tournaments and compete, that's a, that's a very rewarding way to spend your time while you're here at Monmouth. But in addition to that, we gotta look at the positive exposure that it brings to our university. Every time a team of ours wins a conference championship and then goes to a national tournament that brings additional notoriety to the university. I'll give you a quick example. Our men's lacrosse team. We talked about this before they won the, the Mac championship, went on to the, the national tournament NCAA tournament, and they drew North Carolina. The number one team, the number one seat in, in the country, in the tournament in the first round. Now that's a tough draw for Monmouth. I get that made all the more fun for me because one of my, uh, closest childhood friends happens to be the head lacrosse coach at UNC. So we had a lot of fun, uh, getting re reunited, uh, this, this past week. But Monmouth goes to that tournament, Matt, we're one of 16 teams to play on national television in the NCAA lacrosse tournament. If you think about it, I look this up, there are 397 college lacrosse teams in the country division one, two, and three, and only 16, get a chance to play on national television. That brings a, uh, you know, just a little bit more notoriety to our university. And you stack that against these other opportunities, football playing on national TV, against the eventual, uh, winner of the whole FCS national championship and, and others. And each time it adds value to our brand. And, uh, I touted just last night. I don't know if you saw it, but I happened to notice that the FCS rankings came out, you know, the end of the year rankings. And of course, Sam Houston state, um, was the national champion and the number one ranked team in the country, Monmouth, uh, achieved its highest ranking ever at number 10. And what's so exciting for me is we were the highest ranked private institution in the entire nation. In fact, there were only three teams, three private schools that were ranked in the top 25 Monmouth at 10 Richmond at 17 and Villanova at 19. And if, if you just think about that for a minute, that alone, I think burnishes our reputation as a university. Matt Harmon: And listen, I, I, I think you could, you could have the argument, you could make the argument. I think you could make it. And clearly I, I, I, I like to make it as well that if your athletic teams have success, get a little national, not notoriety wind up in the poll show up on an ESPN sports center, top 10 with the baseball during the course of the week. Um, not only does it bring some notoriety to the school, but for students that are thinking about where can I go and get that richer, full experience, that's not just academics, but going to watch a game, engaging with other students on campus. And, you know, I mean, listen, dare I say, have a little bit of fun while they're in college. It, it helps, right? I mean, you wanna be able to present the total picture to potential students that are looking for Monmouth, Patrick Leahy: Especially if you claim you claim to be which we do a residential, uh, university, you know, especially at the undergraduate level. And if you bring people from around the state around the country, you know, increasingly around the country and around the world here to a long branch and west long branch, you wanna give those students the full experience. And one important part of that experience is to offer, uh, you know, a very competitive athletics program. So that, that creates energy and enthusiasm and excitement and, and school spirit, uh, for the entire student body, not just the, uh, the student athletes themselves. So yeah, it's all part of the, of the full experience that we're offering here at Monmouth. Matt Harmon: Let's change gears, but kind of stay on a similar topic. When you think about athletic success. I mean, clearly Monmouth over the course of the last several years has done a really good job. Um, being able to fundraise support programs when needed. I think the fundraising base is something that continues to expand a little bit. Um, and, and it's something that clearly is important to try and stay connected to the university, whether that's through corporate, whether that's through alums, whether that's through families, whether that's through people who are just interested in Monmouth, overall fundraising in a time of a pandemic. And, and COVID 19, I'm sure has presented a lot of very unique challenges. Um, but to continue the theme of, you know, the giving days that Monmouth has taking place, I know for athletics, they've got their golf tournament coming up over the course of the next couple weeks. These are still really important opportunities for people to be involved with the university and stay connected. Patrick Leahy: You know, it's interesting, you should mention that, you know, here raising money during the past year and during the midst of a pandemic, we've had one of our best, uh, fundraising years in recent memory, despite that. And I think that that's a Testament too, not only the new leadership we have in advancement, uh, with, uh, Amanda clause, but, but also mostly the commitment that our Monmouth university community shows, uh, you know, shows our institution. Um, one example of that as you point out is the fact that we retooled our major marque fundraising events. And we're trying to, to sort of consolidate some of 'em Matt so that we can have a few larger, more successful, uh, higher return on our time and effort events. One of which is this golf tournament that we're hosting in, in mid-June, which benefits specifically those athletic programs that we just telled. And, uh, I'm really proud to, to, to share with you that, you know, this year we're forecasting, that we're gonna raise five times the amount of money that we raised last year. Not, not, not, not a 5% increase or 50% increase or whatever, five times more money this year than we did last year, that goes into the, uh, uh, athletics excellence fund. And that's a fund that is made available to our, our director so that she now, and he next year can use those resources to support our student athletes across all of our 23, uh, sports. So, uh, I can't tell you how enthusiastic this is in our first year of retooling. This and my hope is that, of course this will pick up steam and year over year, over year will continue to grow one component to this. We had to go to two golf courses sold out. We, we, we don't have any, any, we're pretty much, uh, sold out on the golfers. We're sold out on the dinner afterwards. And, uh, uh, we, we will have, uh, an auction, which as you know, is often a feature of, uh, fundraising events. We'll have an auction, uh, with 30 or 40, uh, really, really good items that we're gonna make available to the entire Monmouth university community. So, um, you know, be on the lookout for information on that, but just, you know, just trying to create, keep the momentum as high as possible so that we can support these student athletes who are killing it on the field, but also in the classroom. I mean, we've had one of our best academic years as an athletics program this year, uh, as well. Um, so real, really proud of the, the way in which our fundraising is, is keeping pace with our, uh, performance on the field of play Matt Harmon: Golf outing set for June 14th, as president Lehe, uh, mentioned the golf part of it is sold out, but there are sponsorship opportunities still available. If you're interested, you could send an email to golf outing, mammoth.edu, are, will you be playing? Are you a golfer? Patrick Leahy: I am, yes, I am any Matt Harmon: Good. Uh Patrick Leahy: uh, yeah, I, I guess, okay. You know, I don't get to play that often, but, uh, I started when I was, was a kid. I, I come from a golfing family. So, you know, if you wanted to, you wanted to spend time with, uh, my father and my older brothers, you had to learn how to play golf. So, because I wanted to spend time with them, I learned at a young age and that's really, uh, uh, benefited me throughout my whole life, cuz I, I can go step away from it for six or eight months and come back to it and, you know, threaten 80, you know, shooting eight, breaking 80, even with that layoff. In fact, I often say the best thing for my game is a layoff because the more I play, the, the more I develop bad habits, no it's so yes, ill playing, uh, uh, in the golf out in, in June Matt Harmon: Who gets to play with the president at the athletics golf outing. I mean, do, do you pay extra for that? Is that like, Patrick Leahy: I wish I could command a premium, but now, now I just find, uh, find a good group of, uh, three other people who are gonna, you know, enjoy playing together. And uh, and we go out, I often play with, uh, board members and, and other, uh, supporters of our athletics program. Matt Harmon: Golf is a golf is a funny sport, right? I can't, I can't think of many other sports where if you said, Hey, do you play golf? The question right after that is, are you any good or what do you shoot? It's not like, Hey, uh, you play basketball. Yeah. I play a little three on three or I'll get some run in. Nobody says like, how's your jumper golf? That's the immediate follow up question. You play golf. Yes. Are you any good? Because I mean, if you're shooting in the eighties, you know, I mean, I, I, I play maybe once every couple years. I mean, I, I'm a triple digit guy. I I'm, I'm out there for the fun. I mean, you wouldn't want any part of me on the golf. I might be fun, but not from a golf standpoint. Patrick Leahy: I think what people are on the lookout for, with that question and you're absolutely right. Is do you play golf or are you a golfer? Matt Harmon: Very, very true. Patrick Leahy: And maybe they're on the lookout for golfers versus people who just play golf once in a while. Matt Harmon: Two very, very different things. Uh, presently I wanna finish with this one to wrap up, um, our, our kind of academic year and, and the 30th episode of our podcast and probably put you on the spot and maybe, uh, make you feel a little uncomfortable by saying, um, you were recognized on a national level from the national diversity council at their annual leadership conference, uh, conference given, given an award as one of the top 50 leaders in higher education. I, I know it, it's probably something you, you don't walk around, letting everybody know about, but again, to the point of boy, it says Monmouth university, president Patrick Lehe. It's another feather in the cap, not just for yourself, but for, for the university as a whole. And I, and I know because you and I have talked about it a lot on this podcast, over the course of the last 15 months, the word diversity mixed in there has extra meaning. Patrick Leahy: I appreciate your, your raising it Matt, to the, to the extent that that gives us a chance to, uh, burnish the reputation of the university, especially around, uh, diversity and equity and inclusion. I, I don't mind talking about it at all. Of course, I get a little, uh, embarrassed since I was recognized. Um, but I'll, I'll suggest, um, just like the coaches, uh, around here who get, you know, named coach of the year, you know, they immediately say this is really, uh, uh, an accolade to the entire coaching staff, right? So under that sort of leadership, I'll say the same thing that even though I was recognized, I think, uh, what they're really doing is recognizing the incredible work of the entire university around, um, you know, the important issues of, uh, diversity, equity and inclusion. I mean, I didn't know much about it. It caught me totally by surprise. Patrick Leahy: I didn't know much about the national diversity conference. Um, so I started looking into it a little bit and, uh, became quite impressed with some of the other individuals who were also recognized not only in higher education, but across business and, and the legal field and elsewhere. And, uh, it says top 50 leaders in higher education. But I think this year, there were only 13 of us who were recognized and, uh, to be in the company of the president of Princeton and, and Rutgers and the university of Maryland and California, Berkeley. I mean that that's, uh, really humbling, uh, uh, for the president of Monmouth. And so I'm, I'm really proud of it, but, uh, recognized that, uh, I don't, I don't do the real work of DEI around here. Um, uh, Dr. Z rego craft, uh, who runs our intercultural center and his advisor to me on diversity and inclusion and our entire senior administrative team. Um, they're the ones that do the work, uh, to make sure that we are a genuinely, uh, welcoming place. So, um, on behalf of all of them, I'm pleased to be recognized, Matt Harmon: You know, and it, and it does speak a little bit to, uh, you mentioned Dr. Rego craft, who we've had on the podcast. We had Bob MC MCCA on a couple of weeks ago, talking about how diverse the classes have been, uh, in 2020, and now in 2021, um, something that mom is striving for, right. I mean, a little bit more diverse, a little bit more, uh, open to, you know, the, the different races, the different diversities, the different cultures, um, that exist, which to me would, would only continue to enhance the university's reputation. Patrick Leahy: I mean, it's the right thing to do. I mean, we wanna make sure that we make a first class private education as accessible as possible. So I think that's, um, a really worthwhile, uh, goal of all of us educators, but, but the other thing is, you know, our, our pool of students is diversifying, um, quite quickly. And I think it's incumbent upon us to make sure that we're doing everything we can, uh, for that increasingly diverse student population to see Monmouth university as a place where they would be welcome and a place where they could thrive. And so, uh, we're gonna keep working on, uh, burnishing our reputation as a place where, you know, no matter your background, um, uh, you you're, you would be welcome here and you could thrive here Matt Harmon: Presently. I wanna say, uh, congratulations first and foremost. And as we finish up crazy enough to say the second academic year that we've, uh, been doing this, we started it in the pandemic, uh, in, in March, we've gone a, a full calendar year plus a little bit more so as we, we say goodbye to, uh, the 20, 20, 21 academic year. I know you and I have looked forward to continuing this during the course of the summer, have programming for our listeners to kind of stay in touch with what's going on. And then, um, I, I'm still looking forward to actually doing this in person. I know we like to incorporate guests being in the WMC X studio, kind of sitting around a table and being able to record and lick look people into the face. Uh, but, but this has been, this has been so beneficial. I get random emails, comments when I see people on campus, Hey, listen to the podcast. It's so helpful to hear it. So your, your time has obviously really appreciated, um, uh, with a, with a busy schedule of a university president to do this once every, every two weeks, which has kind of been what we've been doing, um, really, really important and, and look forward to continuing with the, with you during the course of the summer. And then next year. Patrick Leahy: Yeah, me too, Matt, I, I always credit you with the idea. It, it was you who reached out to me and suggested this. So, uh, kudos to you on that. I think maybe we should try maybe our next, uh, get together, do it in person. I mean, you're fully vaccinated, I'm fully vaccinated. All the health experts suggest that if you're vaccinated, uh, you know, you've reduced the risk, uh, of any, any, you know, real challenge as a result of COVID almost to zero or, or, or very close to zero. So maybe you and I should get together would be our first podcast, uh, recorded in the same studio. So that, that would be kind of fun. So let's plan on that. We'll, we'll have a lot to discuss throughout the summer. I mean, we're still working on our exact plans around the fall return, uh, conversations continue with our, our faculty leadership, our staff leadership to, to make sure we're trying to integrate their thoughts into those decisions. Um, so we'll have plenty to discuss, uh, as we, uh, as we complete this academic and fiscal year and, uh, and look ahead to next year. Matt Harmon: And then one last thing, knowing that we won't record in between now and when it will take place, obviously the, the summer kind of officially kicks off with Memorial day weekend. And I know the university always does such a great job of recognizing, um, those that serve in the military on any occasion, Memorial day, not withstanding. Um, but, but clearly it's a, it's a special day. And, and I think maybe this year has a little bit more meaning as the country starts to come back together to still remember those, um, who, who helped build it to what it is. Patrick Leahy: Yeah. I, I mean, Memorial day is one of my favorite holidays. Not, not just because it, as you said, it kicks off the, the, uh, essentially the beginning of the summer, but because, uh, it gives us an opportunity to pause as a nation and remember the individuals who, you know, made the ultimate sacrifice to protect our freedoms. And, you know, it's so easy for, for us to take that for granted. And, um, you know, I never had a chance to, to serve our country in uniform. I often say that, um, because I didn't, I'm always on a lookout for ways in which I, I can serve my community and my country. And one small way is to try to be, uh, as, uh, gracious to those individuals who did, and as supportive of those who, who are, and have served our country. It's one of the reasons I'm so proud that we bring as many veterans here to Monmouth as students a, as we do, but Memorial days a, a, a special time for us to, to pause in the midst of all the other activity and, and to, uh, remember those who made that sacrifice. Patrick Leahy: I'm really proud that here at Monmouth, long before I got here, one of the flags that flies on the triple sort of mast right out here on Hess field is the P O w Mia flag. And I think that's evidence of our commitment as a university to those who are lost in defense of our country, Matt Harmon: Very, very well said, university, president Patrick Lehe, leading us into the start of the summer season here at the Jersey shore and remembering those that have lost their lives coming up on this, uh, Memorial day weekend present Le will speak in a couple of weeks, wishing obviously the best of luck, uh, to students who start their summer programming to the baseball team, which is still up and going to the couple of athletes. We mentioned still involved with the track and field, um, and, and a congratulations to university staff, faculty, students, administrative to get through a challenging academic year. Uh, so we'll talk in a couple of weeks and have a fantastic Memorial day weekend. Thank you, Matt. You too, that wraps it up for episode number 30 of our mammoth weekly podcast. Again, president Lehe and I back in a couple of weeks, if you've got anything you want to hear from us during the course of the summer, feel free to drop us aligned via email on social media. Be sure to incorporate your thoughts, ideas for the Monmouth weekly podcast series as we move forward. Uh, congratulations to those graduating 20, 20 and 2021. The academic year comes to a close for university president Patrick Lehe. I'm Matt Harmon. Thanks for your support during the course of the year for Monmouth weekly.