Matt Harmon:
Final exam week is up and going at Monmouth. And it allows us to check in with university president Patrick Lehe and provost Reka data about the latest academic news around campus. This is faculty member, Matt Harmon. It's time for episode number seven of Monmouth weekly. Thanks as Zoe for joining us.

Matt Harmon:
It is normally a, I'll say stressful time with final exams up and going students trying to figure out how to get all their work in. And as we hit week seven episode seven of our mammoth weekly show, we welcome you back in it is the start of final exams. And as we've spent the last couple of weeks, uh, episode five with board of trustee chairman Michael wick last week on episode six, going through the athletic world with vice president and director of athletics, Dr. Marilyn McNeil today, president Lehe and I are joined and happy to be joined by interim provost Reka data, uh, and provost data. I wish you a very good afternoon as we talk here on Wednesday, April 29th, April 29th, obviously being significant because final exams are up and going though. Obviously right now, there is a very different feel to that.

Rekha Datta:
Thank you, Matt. I'm happy to be here. Thank you for having me

Matt Harmon:
President Lehe. You know, when you think about the, the campus, this would be one of those weeks where you would see so much activity and on a campus that is now, uh, essentially quiet and dormant in a lot of ways. I'm sure you were almost looking forward to a way of seeing students try and finish up this spring semester, uh, wrap things up. Those that were gonna be graduating come may it, it just, it continues to just be an evolving, but I'll say very weird situation.

Patrick Leahy:
This is the, the most recent and a whole series of, uh, strange things here at Monmouth, Matt. Um, the beginning of exam time, as you say, while it's stressful on campus, there's also, um, an energy to it. Uh, you have people who are finishing, you know, their academic year and seniors who are, uh, gutting out their final, uh, papers and exams, uh, in preparation for, uh, commencement. And that's just a much different feel this week on campus, but consistent with, uh, what we've experienced the last eight weeks or so

Matt Harmon:
Provost data, when you think of it going back, even to when mamma decided to go remote with their instruction for the remaining part of let's just focus right now on the spring semester, you, you knew that there was going to be, be some challenges from the faculty academics side of it. Can, can you just explain a little bit in terms of, of, I, I guess just a simple evaluation, how you think this process has gone from a faculty student perspective, looking at it as that, uh, provost and, and vice president of academic affairs.

Rekha Datta:
Thank you, Matt. So in this whole crisis, uh, when I look back on, uh, even the months in the week, they seem like a lifetime ago that this was, you know, end of February when we started talking about, uh, the COVID 19 and the coronavirus. And, um, you know, I first became aware of it, uh, when China, uh, kind of postponed or canceled their Luna new year celebrations that was, uh, end of February. And from our global education office, we got some information about, you know, this, this virus and, uh, we have to do something they're putting restrictions on travelers from coming in from China. So that really started the conversation and immediately, uh, uh, president Lehe, uh, deployed or commissioned the, the crisis management team. And since then we have been meeting and one of the first things that came up at the meeting was, uh, if we were to go online, do we have the capacity? Are we able to deliver courses and, uh, you know, all a whole lot of questions around that. So immediately I came back from that meeting. I remember there was, um, probably end of, uh, February, uh, and, uh, I got the school deans together. We met, and luckily we, all the schools actually have a business, uh, continuity plan. Uh, I think this is a legacy of our experiences, uh, under Sandy, hurricane Sandy. So every school was pretty much prepared to, uh, you know, have, uh, kind of a, uh, ship it sea, uh, like a, a, a preparation plan if things don't work well, what are we going to do? But in this case, since it was an issue of, uh, online instruction would be our, um, you know, kind of a go to mode of delivery of instruction. We immediately also, um, commission the help of the information management area, and they were just wonderful to work with. And, uh, they immediately, um, started these sessions, training sessions, tutoring sessions, uh, to prepare faculty to in the event that we have to go online back then match, to be honest, we were thinking maybe we just, you know, prepare for some, like a backup for Sandy what it was like eight days or so we were, um, you know, we had to do remote instruction. Um, and so we were thinking in, in that range, something, you know, maybe a week to maximum two weeks, we never thought we would have to, you know, deal with the entire semester, uh, in this format and now the entire summer. So, um, this has been a very, very unprecedented unprecedented semester. Uh, but looking back when you look at, you know, the way we made those decisions, very measured, uh, we took, uh, steps depending on, or being guided by health experts and, and our state regulations and everything. Um, and, uh, you know, I, I think you also, um, you know, asked me to reflect on how, uh, this transition, how well, um, faculty and students adjusted to it. That is really, uh, a very, very amazing aspect of this whole thing. It was a challenge we had, uh, this semester, we had 1,473 courses in all, and, uh, some of them were already online, but most of them a majority, uh, was in, was designed, they were designed for in person and instruction. So converting that to an online delivery mode and faculty pretty much took, took it upon themselves. Um, you know, within a week or two, maybe 10 days, we were able to, you know, get all the faculty, the training they need, and they, they, uh, stepped up to the plate and then the students adjusted to this, uh, of course there were some bumps, there still are some questions, and we can do much better. We did not have much preparation or any really any lead time to, to get into this mode, but we are gonna be taking some days, uh, next week onward, uh, to prepare better for the summer

Matt Harmon:
When you think of it, president Lehe and, and you and I have talked about this in our, uh, previous episodes, all of the conversations, all of the conference calls all of the meetings that you've had, the emails back and forth, um, and the relationships that are so important because in essence, you want Monmouth to present a United solid front. So there's, there's in essence only one message coming forward. And I would have to think just the relationship that you and provost data have had since you took over as president, but maybe even more so over the course of the last couple of months, um, has been even that much more important.

Patrick Leahy:
I mean, if it's even possible to be that much more important, it has been over the last, uh, couple months. I mean, I remember that I'm in my first year, uh, Matt nine months, uh, into my tenure at Monmouth. And while rake has been here for a long time as a faculty member and in other administrative roles, she's only nine months into her job as the, uh, senior vice president and provost. Um, that is such an important relationship, uh, for a president, uh, that the president of any college or university has to have total confidence in his or her chief academic officer. And, uh, fortunately I do in, in ours, um, despite how new we both are to the situation, one of the great benefits of, uh, having Reka in this job is because of her standing here at the university. I mean, the nobody questions, her commitment to the place. Nobody can question her sincerity, nobody questions, her total dedication to students. And, uh, that is so helpful in a crisis like this. Um, I always say that when you don't have a playbook, you have no choice, but to just fall back on your institutional and, and personal values, and that's what we've done over the last, uh, number of months. And I, I just can't imagine having a better partner in this effort,

Matt Harmon:
Provost data, when you think of it, you go back to 1994 when you first came, uh, to Monmouth. So as president Lehe just said, your relationship with the school is so full and so thorough. Um, you made the correlation to Sandy before when, when you were just talking about, you know, the, the change to remote instruction. Uh, I, I mean, from a Monmouth perspective, this is not only unprecedented as you said, uh, but it's gonna be something that, that I think the school itself and president Lehe and I have talked about this at different points of our Monmouth weekly shows. It's gonna be something that Monmouth will be able to, to learn something about itself that under any other circumstance and situation, it probably wouldn't have been able to

Rekha Datta:
Matt, I'm tearing up hearing all this, but, uh, yes, I, I do go back. Uh, this is my 26th year at Mout. Uh, we've been, you know, through a lot of ups and downs. Um, you mentioned hurricane Sandy, we went through the 2008, uh, global recession. Uh, there's really, I mean, when you have this kind of deep institutional, uh, connections and relationships, there's got to be happy times and, um, there's got to be down, you know, like rainy days as well. Um, just before we left campus, uh, to go like remote work or stay at home, uh, kind of a mode. I, I remember getting an email, um, or perhaps it was a phone call from, um, Tom Dr. Pearson. Uh, Tom Pearson has been provost for, uh, I believe 26 or so years. And he was my provost when I joined Monmouth and he just stepped down a few years ago. So, uh, Tom said, uh, I know this is not, you know, the best time to be a provost, but just hang in there. Remember we went through Sandy together, we will weather this. Uh, this is not going to be, uh, you know, something that, uh, you, this is gonna be something that you look back upon and say it was a great, you know, learning experience. So he gave me a lot of courage and he said always, uh, you know, fall back on me, reach out to me, uh, and we'll get through this. So that gave me a lot of comfort. And that's the kind of message I got from, uh, a number of people, especially senior administrators who are, you know, deans and vice presidents, uh, and all over, really from the, you know, the, the person who cleans offices to, uh, to the information management team, everybody's there to help. And this is the kind of Monmouth. Um, I saw during hurricane Sandy, uh, you know, I happened to have, um, Sean Golden as my student and I have a long time relationship with him. So Sean was sheriff, uh, even during hurricane Sandy and later on one day, he was, um, I, I guess he was accepting some award. And he mentioned that one of the, one of the things that gave him courage, uh, to, uh, kind of, you know, face the, the scourge of SA hurricane Sandy was that, and he referred to an, a message that I had sent him saying, Sean, we are behind you, you're our sheriff. And, you know, just, just fall back on us, Manu is with you. And he, he was talking about how much, you know, courage and stability that gave him. That's the kind of thing that I feel right now is the Goodwill, the collaboration. And everybody's like, you know, drop everything and, and go and help. That's the, that's the spirit of Monmouth. And that's what I have been, uh, really very, very fortunate to, to have received. Uh, some folks have said, uh, oh my God, this is you didn't ask for this, right? You didn't sign up to be provost at a time when we have to deal with the coronavirus. And, you know, my response is no one signed up for this, right? None of us did. So I at least am in a comfortable place. Like I have a home, a roof over my head. I think about our nursing students, about our healthcare workers and especially our students with whom we have this kind of direct relationship. And I get messages from them, their professors on a daily basis, what they're dealing with. And I'm just so thankful for, for them and, and for all the work that they're doing. And if I can do a little bit of my role in giving support to faculty, to our colleagues, and, and most importantly to our students, I think in many ways, this has really helped me grow tremendously as a, as a professional, as a person. And I'm just very thankful. Uh, the other thing I tell people is that if I had to go through a crisis like this, it better be under president Lehe. So he has been just, you know, this, this wonderful person. So even keeled, uh, maintaining his sense of humor and, and, and just, uh, you know, I, I think he takes the, a lot of the pressure off by being human. And I, I think that's more than any, anybody can ask more than definitely I can ask at this point,

Matt Harmon:
Well, I actually want to go back to the beginning part of your answer, and we'll go back to president Lehe. Uh, I'm not sure president Lehe in, in now the seventh episode of Monmouth weekly, we haven't brought anybody to tears yet. Have we <laugh> but sounds, it sounds like we've been able to do that. We, we have established here on episode seven and emotional connection, which maybe has been missing over the course of our first six episodes. But, but, but in all seriousness presently, he, when, when you hear that, um, you know, it it's, it, it, it is so important. Just the relationship. You talked about it last week with Dr. McNeil. You talked about it two weeks ago with board of trustee, uh, chairman Michael wick. And now here with, with provost data, you have to be able to think about things for more of just, okay, this is what we're doing. It has to be, do I have the relationships? Do I have the confidence in people? And on the flip side, do those people have the confidence in me to make the right decisions during this unprecedented time for Monmouth now and for Monmouth going forward?

Patrick Leahy:
Yeah, I was gonna say, Matt, I'm, I'm glad that this is not a video call, or I might be wiping a, to your, uh, uh, away from my, uh, eyes as well. Um, one of the things I love about working in education is the fact that relationships are so important. I mean, if you think about it's one of the great human, uh, uh, enterprises, uh, on earth, and that is, uh, the opportunity to, to educate other people. And, um, those relationships, consequently are so important. And as those relationships develop among the faculty and the staff and the board, it's what we can do to put the quality of those relationships, uh, in place to, to transform the lives of our, of our students. And, uh, it's one of the things I love about, about education is, is the ability to create those relationships. And, you know, I, I said this to the staff. I had a round of staff calls yesterday, which is a great opportunity for me. I get to connect directly with, uh, I think we had up to 500 of our staff members on two different zoom calls. And I said to them, um, something about this, I said, you know, I'm nine months into this, into my job, uh, as everyone well knows, have not even celebrated my first anniversary yet as the president at Monmouth. And I'm trying hard to do a, a good job if I can. I mean, I consider that to be what it means to be a professional. You know, you're in a job you're asked to do as good a job as you can do. That's what it means to be professional. Uh, you know, that in, in your, in, in your line of work, both as a broadcaster and as a, as a, as a teacher, but I said more important than that in the nine months that I've been here, I have grown to really appreciate what this university means. Uh, in fact, I've grown to love what, uh, this university means not only to each other, but to our students and to the community that that hosts us. And, uh, consequently that that's what really motivates my desire to do a good job. And I felt it was important to say that to our staff members, because I am still in many respects, the new guy, um, but the new guy who's commissioned with, you know, leading the university through this challenging time.

Matt Harmon:
It is episode seven, we are recording our weekly podcast. We call it mom with weekly I'm faculty member, Matt Harmon, university, president Patrick Lehe, and today interim provost Reka data. It is the start of final exam week, uh, provost data. I, I want to ask you this, cuz I think this is kind of a, is an interesting thing to throw in your direction. Not only are you overseeing in essence, the academic part of Monmouth and the university community, but you are also still attached and teaching classes as well. Um, what issues or what problems have you encountered over the course of the last six now into seven weeks in terms of, uh, potential remote instruction from your own classes?

Rekha Datta:
Well, thank you for asking that question. Uh, so being a teacher, I, I cannot, you know, give an interview without asking anybody, asking me about my class. Right. So thank you. Um, so I actually was a little bit fortunate in that my class was the hybrid to begin with. So I did not have to make too much change in terms of the delivery mode, if you will. Uh, we've had, uh, you know, classes off and on campus anyway. Uh, but I also took too hard. Uh, one of the things that, um, ed Christensen, our VP for information management warned us from day one, uh, that, you know, everybody's gonna go online all at the same time. Don't get too crazy and don't try to start doing all synchronous classes. So I've been telling, um, our deans and chairs and faculty colleagues that, you know, this in this transition, we are not ready yet. Our system has not really been taxed in this way ever before. So when we go online, uh, let's just try to focus and, and keep the method as simple as possible and maybe try more asynchronous learning. So I tried that the first week and the, um, the response I got back from my class was could we do at least half of that time, or maybe once a week, could we just have a video or a zoom call? Um, and so I, I did that. I set it up the following week and I asked them them, why, why they deed it or they wanted it so unanimously, they said that they really wanted to be able to see each other and to see me, which was great to, to hear. And then, uh, you know, do over the over time, we became more comfortable, uh, in, in the zoom environment. And they kept saying that even if we don't talk about the content during the call, we just want to be able to, uh, just see each other and check in. And so I thought that this crisis has really not, is not like any other crisis, um, and a, a large part of it is health and wellness to so making students feel like they are connected is such an important part of this whole learning experience that I have witnessed. Um, and so I've been trying to, and to impress upon students that, uh, you know, they are, they're really there for us and we are there for them because we cannot function without students and students want us and, and need us. It's that feeling that, you know, I think we've learned to, and grown to appreciate even more, um, several departments and, uh, even the social work, uh, school recently did a video and the underlying message of that video they did, uh, for their graduating seniors is the underlying message is we miss you. And I think that we miss you is a, is such a big part of this. And then with the technology we've been able to reconnect and we have been doing some of the content. And I say some of the content because even being the chief academic officer, I have really grown to appreciate that, that, because this is a pandemic, our health and wellness is really foremost. And president Lehe Al also has been, you know, telling, telling everyone from day one health and wellness of our students, of our colleagues of the entire campus community is our number one priority. And our second priority is to be able to deliver a high quality remote instruction to the best of our ability, given the circumstances. So I think between these two is the, is where I think we try to balance it, being fully aware that this is a health crisis and students have to be able to, um, manage that, navigate that navigate a totally new learning environment. And so, yes, as an academic, as a professor, I like to intellectually challenge my students, but this is a semester where if we can continue our education and come to the finish line, that has been my goal. And like every semester during finals, uh, you know, there is a high level of stress, understandably papers are due. Deadlines are coming up, you know, sleepless nights and a lot of coffee that has been the norm when we are on campus. Now in this online environment, you know, there is a lack of structure. Students are working in home environments where they're probably, you know, again, vying for, uh, internet time or working with others in other family members. Uh, some of our, uh, students also have families themselves, young children themselves. So they're dealing with those responsibilities. So the reality is so different from like an on, on campus, uh, in person learning environment. We just have to be all very, very cognizant of that fact and, and, you know, kind of temper temporal expectations around that. One of my colleagues, um, loves to use this imagery of this, the final two weeks of the semester being, uh, the plane being ready to kind of descend. And we are in descent mode and he would say, this is the time don't get it in anybody's way. Everybody's cranky. Everyone wants to finish. People are not getting enough sleep. Uh, you know, faculty are tired or grading. The students are tired of studying. So if you can imagine that in a normal semester this semester, I think we've just been through a, a series of turbulence since spring break or the week before that. And we, and hopefully once we land, we'll at least be free of that turbulence. Uh, that's the imagery I have in my mind, you know, getting to the finish line next week,

Matt Harmon:
President Lehe. Let me follow that up with, as you hear, um, provost data talk about still a connection to the students and the classroom. I mean, listen, every school probably has their own situation, their own uniqueness, how involved the provost is still being part of the classroom, not being part of the classroom, how beneficial, especially at a time like this, would you find it that your provost, the mammoth provost still has, I'll say the pulse of the students because she is still actively involved as a professor in the classroom.

Patrick Leahy:
That's precisely what I was gonna say, Matt, that, uh, I love the fact love the fact that, uh, RA, uh, continues even with her, uh, substantial administrative responsibilities to commit time every semester to teaching. Um, I mean, I'd like to see more of our administrators here at Monmouth allocate a little bit of time every semester to teaching myself included. Once I get a little bit better, uh, uh, better situated. I just think it's so important, no matter what any of us does as administrators, it can't be more important than, you know, the, the time allocated every, every week to the classroom. Um, because that is the heart of the matter at, at an academic institution, especially a university that has ambition to be, and to be recognized as a first class academic institution. So we have to continue to remind people of the primacy of our, of our activities and the, and the importance of that, of that, uh, fundamental activity here. And that is what happens in the classroom. I am, as, as I've said many, many times, uh, I'm not a traditional, uh, academic. I, I'm very thrilled to be as well educated as I am, but I'm not a, a, a bonafide academic. So for me to say that, um, I hope sends a signal to the entire community, um, that, uh, the heart of the matter is, is what happens in the classroom and for our chief academic officer to be modeling that, um, I think is really important, whether we're in a miss of a public health crisis or not

Matt Harmon:
President Lee, I'm gonna follow that up with this one, this, uh, taken directly from your social media, Twitter account yesterday. What do USC, UCLA, Miami, NYU, and Monmouth all have in common named to Billboard's 20, 20 top music business schools at a time like this? It, it, it is still kind of nice, right? To be able to throw a feather in the cap of Monmouth and look at the schools that what we do here in west long branch are, and continue to be compared to,

Patrick Leahy:
You know, I, I shout out to, uh, your, uh, fellow faculty member and department chair, Joe rap. He, he mentioned to me a couple months ago that he had applied for this cuz apparently you, you have to send him all kinds of information and billboard vets out programs. And, you know, you have to, you have to earn your way into this. And, uh, he shared with me, I think it was just yesterday or the day before the great news that for the first time ever, we'd been included in that, which I thought was cool. You know, Hey, that's really cool. Then I look at, of course the other institutions that are also listed and I start thinking, you know, that is increasingly the kind of company that we ambition to keep. I mean, the great schools in America, many of which are private, like we are, um, USC and NYU and Syracuse is also on that list in Miami. Um, you know, I'm not saying we don't have a ways to go to catch those schools, but every little piece, like this gets us associated, uh, with those quality schools in a way that we think it burnishes our, our image,

Matt Harmon:
Provost data, let's finish with a couple of things and I'll, and I'll give you the opportunity to talk about this one first, um, as the semester winds down final exam week when we are recording right now, which is, and we're, we're not shy about dating things right now, Wednesday, April 29th, early afternoon, there is a, a faculty meeting today. Um, what would you expect or what has been the message I should say. Um, and you can take that in, in any direction that you want, that the faculty has been able to not only recognize some of the challenges that remote learning, um, students could have, but also be able to adjust. And as you said earlier in an answer, really be there for the students and, and in essence, hope the students be there for them as, as the semester kind of kicks into that last little piece, final exam week. Um, the, the connection right now, amongst the faculty and, and any issues that maybe you would foresee

Rekha Datta:
Well, uh, I think, like I mentioned before, the way faculty just stepped up to the plate and delivered the, the online learning was just extraordinary. Um, I, I think, uh, this is, this has taken a lot out of faculty. Uh, first and foremost, I would, uh, thank them and, uh, and really, um, kind of suggest that everybody takes a break and gets some rest. I think that would be my number one priority for, for the faculty. And then the second part of it would be, uh, I, like I mentioned before, uh, we did not have too much time to prepare for the spring semester, but going into the summer, uh, we would like to be more prepared, give the students, uh, also an, uh, some opportunity or space, uh, to give us their, uh, input on their experience as well. I'd like to collect, uh, more faculty experience. I know for faculty, it has been a challenge, um, not just adjusting the, uh, the, you know, the, the learning mechanisms of the are putting the content in pedagogically, but also their own responsibilities at home. You know, faculty with young children do not have access to childcare right now. So they've been juggling with that or caring for other family members or faculty members who've been sick. Um, so it's been really very challenging for everyone. So the first thing I would say is, you know, I hope everybody gets some time to, to relax and to be able to, uh, just, you know, engage in some self care. Um, and that way we will be better prepared and, and just have more energy and rejuvenated for the next, uh, round of online classes in, in the summer. And then, uh, just be prepared and be thinking about, uh, the fall and, and continuing as a university. We don't know, uh, what that is gonna look like yet, but just being prepared it, I think will be, uh, very critical for us. So we are also president, um, Lehe, uh, has put together a fault task force and, um, that is heavy on the academic side. Uh, in case we do have to have some sort of, um, you know, hybrid or, uh, any kind of learning that is, uh, that involves, uh, remote, uh, access. We just have to be, uh, very good at it, uh, because we have a commitment to our students. And, uh, for instance, with personalized, uh, education, we've tried to replicate a lot of our academic support system in the online world that includes virtual office hours, um, you know, accommodate accommodation from the disability services, career planning and career advice, just academic advising in general writing and tutoring services. Uh, so we've tried to really be that Monmouth, um, in the virtual world, uh, as close to the monument that we are in, on, on campus. So I would commend our faculty on keeping that, uh, connection with students, even in the virtual world, and that I'd like to, you know, continue that. Uh, and then finally, I think our students are really our inspiration. Uh, I know, uh, and I wanna thank both of you for, um, you know, all those wonderful things that you said about my teaching, but the, the teaching part is actually, uh, gives me a respite or, or a break from the endless meetings that I have to attend on the administrative side. Uh, so going into a classroom is really refreshing and, you know, just interacting with the young minds, I think is, is something is the biggest benefit of, of teaching is, uh, and, you know, that's why we never, you know, get old in our thinking because we are always dealing with young, uh, minds and fresh ideas. Uh, one of the things that, uh, in the very first class that we met after spring break, of course, through zoom, uh, a student, she mentioned that, um, you know, what I feel like is our generation has to brace for big changes through this, um, through, through this crisis, through this pandemic, uh, just like we had the Renaissance after the plague, we are also bracing for big changes and, and I just quickly qued on that. And it is really, we are looking at your generation to do that. So I think if, if that's the, uh, mantra or that's the guiding light that our, our students can show us, I think we can get through this crisis and, and look for that light at the end

Matt Harmon:
Provost data. I know that you, uh, live under these words, be the change you want to see in the world. Hopefully the world will continue to change. Uh, before I give president Lehe a, a final opportunity, uh, to comment on our episode here this week, I want to thank you so much for joining us here. I know the challenge has been enormous over the course of the last two months and will continue to be, but hopefully we will be able to, uh, get back to normal as early as the fall semester and be able to continue these episodes. Talk about all the great things that Monmouth has offered you going back to 1994. That's about when I started as a student, believe it or not <laugh> um, so we we'll be able to do this again, and I hope upon hope that, uh, you and your family have nothing but, uh, safety and health over the course of the remaining part of this coronavirus pandemic. And can't wait to catch up and see you face to face.

Rekha Datta:
Thank you, Matt. And you also, you and your family stay healthy, stay well, president Lehe, I'll probably see you in a few minutes at some other meeting <laugh> thank you. It has been a real joy, uh, sharing some of my experiences with both of you. Thank you for having me

Matt Harmon:
President Lehe, just a quick final word to wrap up episode seven.

Patrick Leahy:
Yeah. I just won my own opportunity to, uh, send a message to our faculty and it would be pretty simply. Thank you. I mean, thank you for, uh, their in innovation and creativity moving so abruptly to remote instruction. Uh, thank you for the, the, the Goodwill that they've exhibited toward each other and to the administration, as we collaborate on solutions to these challenges. And most importantly, uh, I guess, thank you for the total dedication to our students. Um, you know, I, I just happen to believe that great universities are directly correlated to great people and, uh, you need to have a great faculty in order to have a great institution, a great university. And, and we do at Monmouth and, uh, this pandemic has, uh, shined a spotlight on that. And I'm just so grateful, uh, to be their colleague

Matt Harmon:
Episode eight culling next week, we'll keep you updated ASEs, go to mammo.edu for all the most, uh, recent news happenings and information follow along on the various social media channels as well. Our thank you to interim provost, Reka data to university president Patrick Lehe. I'm Matt Harmon. We say so long. And thanks as always for listening to weekly, this has been episode seven. We'll talk to you again next week.